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Marius Vincenzii Dennischter http://sprogspelet.arwi.im/help/round-142/

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter There you go folks!! The next round is in the link above

Arief Wibowo Now... [sign1] is most definitely "hello"

[sign3] is "I/me/I am" (based on ?101)

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter I can't tag CJM ><`

Arief Wibowo Helpful tagging bot:
std::cout << "Christian James Meredith";
std::cout << "Дайте Нефть Из Баку";

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Many thanks to Arief, for his help to upload the video

Arief Wibowo Many welcomes to Vincensiu Denis, for giving us a round like no other

Arief Wibowo [sign10] and [sign12] is probably "C". I see "C" sign but in auslan signbank it's one-handed, Vincensiu Denis signed with left hand too.
[sign11] is "H"
[sign13] is probably "I"
[sign14] is "S"
[sign15] is "T"
[sign16] is "I"
[sign17] is "A"
[sign18] is "N"

I guess the final signs are "Christian" (sign12 probably is mistaken)

http://www.auslan.org.au/spell/twohanded.html

Arief Wibowo My current guess:
Hello, [sign2] I [sign4] [sign5] [sign6] [sign7] [sign8] [sign9] Christian

Arief Wibowo [sign8] probably means "love"
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/love-4.html

The gangsta-looking [sign6] apparently means "Australia" or "Australian"
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/Australia-1.html

And I wonder if [sign5] and [sign9] are the same...

Arief Wibowo I see Maria Weidner! Mbak Maria,join the muted fun!

Maria Weidner as soon as my daughter will have left the house..

Arief Wibowo My latest guess is:
Hello, [sign2] I [sign4] [sign5] Australia/Australian [sign7] love [sign9] Christian

Christian James Meredith I love how when I can finally tag Vincensiu he can't tag me xD

Australia does love Christian.

Sarah Karoline Unfortunately I'm experiencing technical problems, so I can't join in

The video cuts out after 10 seconds!
I'm experiencing sound and video problems on other sites too...
p.s. And tagging is failing too....

Arief Wibowo Look up how to sign "tag", probably that's the key to solving this round

Sarah, try to download one of the videos and subtitle (srt) from the links on that page, and view it locally

Sarah Karoline I'd downloaded the file, but this is when it wouldn't play for more than 10 seconds.
The video wouldn't work on the website either

aaargh, too many technical faults today.

I can't take a serious or creative guess at what the answer could be as I can't see it

Arief Wibowo I wonder, can anyone else view the video completely (make sure it says [sign1] all the way to [sign18])? (I can)

Sarah, do you know what's 7-zip?

Sarah Karoline Success, success, success!!! It's playing in RealPlayer!!!
I didn't change anything. I just checked for updates (they were updated), turned the computer off and on again, and now it's working!

Arief Wibowo Awesome! Perhaps consider installing VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html) and/or K-Lite Codec Pack Mega (http://www.codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_mega.htm)? They handle much much more codecs/file formats

I actually uploaded an encrypted 7z pack because I was afraid that your network is throttled

Arief Wibowo And Sarah Karoline, I should have told you http://youtu.be/p85xwZ_OLX0

Sarah Karoline hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I wish all technical faults were that easy to solve. That was pure luck, no doubt the only and final time such a simple thing will work! hahahaha
My computer is doing something it shouldn't be doing... It's had a mind of its own this last week!

Sarah Karoline I can only get "hello" and "Christian", exactly the same as Arief

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Hey folks... on my break atm. You are doing well...
Keep going!!

Maria Weidner I've watched now so many Auslan videos, but I don't get anywhere..

Sarah Karoline I spent quite a while watching Auslan videos too, I also found a dictionary, and I looked at the sign books I have on my shelf. Still searching...

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Sarah Karoline Auslan and BSL are related and similar.

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Also I can see CJM commented: "I love how when I can finally tag Vincensiu he..." in the notification, but the actual comment was missing... strange....
Christian, did you deleted the comment??

Christian James Meredith Hahaha! Me and Vincensiu are destined to not be able to communicate effectively!

Arief Wibowo Sarah Karoline, let's try to solve this technical problem ↓

Probably Christian James Meredith and Vincensiu Denis accidentally blocked each other?

The comment is still there, also visible in Live page

Christian James Meredith Well normally if you block then you can't see them at all, fullstop, so its a tad weird

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith, true also*. I have no more idea.
(Malaysian/Singaporean slang, literally "benar juga")

I just downloaded the only "free" Auslan book I can find: http://j.mp/1aq8HHu

Arief Wibowo I skimmed thru all images in that book, not useful

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Where was CJM's comment??

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Above/ below whose??

Hint: sign 4; Imagine if there is an invisible book above my hands when Im signing that.

Going back to sleep now...

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith's comment is http://on.fb.me/1aj2j8A

sign4 = Facebook?

Christian James Meredith True also seems like it'd work in Aussie English too. I can see Vincensiu 's posts at least so the word isn't ending totally yet.

Arief Wibowo By the way, the state of my current guess:
Hello, [sign2] I (am) (Facebook?) [sign5] Australia(n) [sign7] love [sign9] Christian

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Nope not facebook. Imagine if I hold a book with my palm and rotate it infront of my face, what does it implicate?

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Finally wake up from dreamland...

the link that you gave me still doesn't work Arief, still can't see CJM's comment.
Where exactly was the comment?
Is it above your" I see mbak Maria join the muted fun???"
I'm frustrated.... there might be other comments that I can't see as well

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Ok at least I can see all the comments on sprogspelet.arwi.im

hmmmm... and extra hints:
actually I would like to put a "question tags" but I don't know how to do it in Auslan,
so my last expression in the video (which is not included in the numbered sign) means "isn't it"?
so .... isn't it, Christian?

Arief Wibowo It implicates... I don't know, I never done that I guess

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter try to do it yourself Arief, repeat the sign while holding a book with your palms, what does it look like?

Arief Wibowo The closest I can think of is dizzy, but auslan.org.au signs it a bit differently. Could it be a slang?
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/dizzy-1.html

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter no! BOOK!!!! wha'ts book for??

Arief Wibowo Hmm... Read?
No, it isn't sign for "read" or anything related to it :/

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter something close to read

Arief Wibowo I have tested "see", "seek", "seen", "understand"

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter What do we read books for?

Arief Wibowo Also not "remember", "knowledge", "learn", "practice" :/

Arief Wibowo I just re-read your "hmmmm... and extra hints", and thus my current guess is:
Hello, [sign2] I (am) (read-related?) [sign5] Australia(n) [sign7] love [sign9] isn't it, Christian?

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Yup. It's good.
Btw Arief, remember one word can have multiple sign. One word in your "also not" words list has got 95% correct meaning

Arief Wibowo sign2 is "newspaper"
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/newspaper-1.html

If that's correct, sign4 is an action towards sign2/newspaper.

Not "skim" nor "scan" (the act of reading fast)

On unrelated note, I searched for "scan", and this is a rather lengthy way to say "scan":
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/scan-1.html

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Nope... not newspaper ><`
Arief sometimes things are easier when you sit back and use logic.
I believe that it might b easier for ppl to decipher some of the signs without auslan dictionary....
Some not all :p

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Stop looking at auslan signbank for 5 min. Look at tge words that you have obtained. Use a bit of logic/common sense/ deduction/ prediction/ pattern.... which word NORMALLY fill the blanks?

Hint: 5 & 9 are extremely uncommon in conversational (audiotory) English

Arief Wibowo Yeah, I won't realize that sign6 is Australia without dictionary

Hmm... My natural, non-dictionary guess of sign2 is to welcome (opening doors) or to open something

Arief Wibowo Thinking with my Indonesian hat on, I'd say sign7 means people. (Indonesians sometime refer to people by their batang hidung/nose :P)

Riddle:
You would say me visually but not aurally
I look like explosions
Who am I?

Arief Wibowo By the way, Akmal Azry bro, join this round of Auslan?

Arief Wibowo Whoa! Indonesian FTW!!!
sign7 really is "people"
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/people-1.html

Which means:
Hello, [sign2] I (am) (read-related?) [sign5] Australians (i.e., people in Australia) love [sign9] isn't it, Christian?

Now I just need to find out what and where did you read something that Australians also love

Arief Wibowo sign4 is study!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Yeah right

Btw does the video on auslan signbank for "study" plays?
I just checked it and it wont play for me :s

Arief Wibowo Exactly why I didn't know it at first... Then I remember that Chrome can't play along with some websites, probably it's too cutting-edge. Works with Firefox.

Arief Wibowo A ha, signception!

Christian James Meredith Guessing time:
"Hello everyone, I am like the Australian people, lovely isn't it, Christian?"?

Arief Wibowo ONE MORE WORD TO GO!
Hello, [sign2] I (am) study(ing) Sign Language. Australians love Sign Language don't they, Christian?

Vincensiu Denis, hiiiiiint for sign2?

(don't say anything if it's too easy

)

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter hmmm....
I guess probably because you (we) are Indonesian, you might not get sign2 straight away because we don't use this very much, but in Western world, especially Indo-Europeans speakers, it is widely used in every convo....

Christian, Nope. try to stjallcuri from Arief's attempt, He made a good progress so far

Arief Wibowo I'd guess "Hello friends, I (am) study(ing) Sign Language. Australians love Sign Language don't they, Christian?"
But the sign disagrees :/
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/friend-2.html

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter not friends.... how did you get "sign language"??

it's not quite right but almost correct ;D

Arief Wibowo From http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/Sign%20Language-1.html

Alternatives include: Auslan, Sign Language, chat, yarn, chinwag

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter I mean where did you get the idea from :p

Arief Wibowo Oh, idea is because you specifically hinted at something "extremely uncommon in conversational (audiotory)", then after I wrote the mini-riddle, it hit me: signs!

Okay, let me make it specific:
Hello [sign2], I (am) study(ing) Auslan. Australians love Auslan don't they, Christian?

Christian James Meredith "Hello everynyan"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SNe55_pyJE

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter OMG, this is getting weird... LMAO
Cmon guys, nearly there!! one more sign!! and this should be easy!!!
Arief, you are almsot there
Others, stjallcuri anyone??

Arief Wibowo Let's do it by elimination, what word could appear after "Hello" and before the actual sentence.

It's similar, but isn't "introduction"
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/introduction-1.html

Also not "everyone" (or "everynyan")
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/everyone-1.html

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter last hint from me:
WATCH CJM VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

Arief Wibowo Not everyone (or everynyan), how are you, fine, thank you, god, wish, bird

Christian James Meredith NICE TO MEET YOU.

Christian James Meredith PLEASE BE THAT

Christian James Meredith Do we *really* have to translate this into English? Coz I'm tempted to say it should translate to "hajimemashite".

Arief Wibowo We can translate that into English via Japanese:
Hello begin, [...]?

Christian James Meredith Hajimemashite is just something you say to introduce an introduction (introduception)

Arief Wibowo Oh, probably in Ancient Japanese it literally mean "begin introducing the introduction now!"

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Arief, pourquoi pas?

Arief Wibowo Whoops. Anyway, I will leave it to Christian James Meredith or others to stjälcuri. I must heed the calling of the waters now

Christian James Meredith It and douzo yoroshiku sorta function as a "How do you do? Nice to meet you all!" phrase (with your name, occupation and marital status smooshed betwen), although the meaning is as you translated there a bit different, sorta like saying "To begin, (yada yada yada), please (help yourself) well (good, as an adverb, in polite language)"

Or probably better explained like "Allow me to being/introduce myself, I am (yada, yada yada), may we fare well together", but it's sorta vague.

Arief Wibowo sign2 looks like: regularity, reliability, permanency, regular, usual, every, reliable, permanent, regularly, always
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/every-3.html

Which means:
Hello! Regularly, I study Auslan. Australians love Auslan don't they, Christian?

Vincensiu Denis, by any chance you missigned this? (or auslan.org.au missigned it?)

Kudos to a friend of mine (who shall not be named because doesn't want to participate) for discovering this.

(I can't heed the call of the waters because of signal interference by another body of water: rain)

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter I'm pretty sure that I didn't missigned that....
I have used this sign few times before and seen some people have used this. Including in some youtube videos. lemme check the signbank source

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Not even any stjallcuri???

Arief Wibowo (lemme continue my research into BANZSL)

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Arief the answer are there look no more. It should b very simple. I checked thr signbank. The sign there are slightly different than what i signed. But using common sense you wud b able to guess what comes after Hello. Remember CJM's video!

Arief Wibowo Hello everyone, I (am) study(ing) Auslan. Australians love Auslan don't they, Christian?

Arief Wibowo Still, the closest to sign2 is "every"... Hmmmm

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Not every.... everyone or everybody or anyone or anybody

Arief Wibowo Another similar one is health, well, healthy, How are you
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/How%20are%20you-2.html
(difference: you used both hands and start mid-air, signbank used 1 hand and start from chest)

good, well, fine
http://www.auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/good-2.html
(difference: you started from middle, signbank started from left to right)

Hmm... My common sense engine seems faulty

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter yeah I dont know why they use one hand??? My deaf friend uses two hands and if you watch other videos on youtube they have been using two hands as well!! Now arrange everything into a nice solid sentence.

Arief Wibowo Hello, how are you? I study Auslan. Australians love Auslan don't they, Christian?

Christian James Meredith CJM version: Greetings healthy one. I am the spirit incarnate of Auslan study. Australians are entrapped by lust for Auslan, is that not so, Kuhuhruheesuhtuheeahnuh?

Arief Wibowo Somehow I am reminded of Komodo Joe (http://youtu.be/SLyVwv1zsvo?t=15s) when reading Kuhuhruheesuhtuheeahnuh

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Arief wins! Except you forgot "people" . But thats ok. Ur turn now. No more Auslan next time. Too muh inconsistency. Ill just go mainstream next time

Arief Wibowo New minigame: Guess the score of this round!
Kinda like numbers betting

Christian James Meredith Vincensiu Denis dame! Kibou ga irimasu!

Arief Wibowo Yay! The number betting is now on!
I bet for... 2364

Vincensiu Denis, I merged Australia(n) + people to be Australians for simplicity

Thanks for the round though, it's fun once in a while to search for visual things instead of texts

Christian James Meredith Score's probably not that bad I'm guessing?

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith by round's score I mean rating

Try it out, betting's up to 4-digit precision

(some technical background: max rating is 10,000, but it's only achievable if the round is both the longest and has the most number of posts at the same time, which doesn't happen until now)

Meanwhile, I will look for a phrase...

Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Maybe everyone should just think about a phrase now. So when they win they got a phrase ready to go....

Arief Wibowo Good idea!

Arief Wibowo I am out of ideas, so I will stick to Mandarin Chinese... Number bets are still open while I am prepping the round

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