Round 231

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Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Okay, Round 231

So’ɔwa piga ɔ kɛ ivrɛ mve, dal ntɛga lu letsədə ah mpaskale.
Eseya xa ño u mɔkə kɔnze!

If you guys get the language, or at least the family it belongs to, I'll give you guys a grammar and a dictionary. A word of advice-don't search the text directly. And yes, Jake will co-moderate.
Zev Brȹk
Zev Brȹk It feels like a language in the Mande dialect continuum, but I can't tell which.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger It's not. That's a good guess though; it looks like that because of the IPA symbols being used in the orthography, no?
Zev Brȹk
Zev Brȹk Yeah. I don't know West African languages too well. But looking at the vowel system, it reminds me a bit more of Wolof.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Here's a hint-I might be screwing with you.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Although this language is indeed one end of a dialect continuum.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger It's a good guess because it does, indeed, look like many African orthographies that were created after the existence of IPA & were influenced by it. It's orthography IS influenced by IPA.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Congratulations, Dino Wrik. A curious question, does ! represent a click? Or it's a clickless language?
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Dino Wrik! I like it. The <!> is just an exclamation mark. It doesn't represent a sound; it's being used to mark strong feelings or emphasis.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Neither of us are evil enough to do something Khoi-San.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger Speak for yourself; that actually sounds like a swell idea… Not that I know enough to do a round in !Xõó or something like that. I don't even know how to pronounce that.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Well !Xõó is tonal, if that helps at all.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee It might just be the most evil language ever. It has over a hundred clicks as clusters, six ejectives, and tonality.
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Oh my... So is it confirmed that it's Western African languages?
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee No.
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter I feel like paskale is related to Easter
Adrian Baxt-Dent
Adrian Baxt-Dent from a country invaded by france? k3 ivr3 looks some how french influenced.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee No and no. This language is not, to my knowledge, spoken in a country once colonized by France (unless somebody there specifically tried learning it). And while it is a good guess, mpaskale has nothing to do with Easter. In fact, that word is a verb in this sentence. If you guys still can't get this, we'll drop some bigger clues.
Zev Brȹk
Zev Brȹk I searched a word against your wishes and found out the language, but this is inherently unguessable. I think that using Klingon was justified since it so well known and documented, but this is just pure trolling.
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Oh my, Don't tell me it's a conlang again :(
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee It's perfectly guessable once you figure that out. We could, of course, give away the conworld where it is spoken. Given that it has both a grammar and a dictionary, it should still be playable. You guys have had even less documented languages than this, like Nancowry, which only has two known grammars, both of which are from the 1800s.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee So yes, Vincensiu , this is a conlang.
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Well, TBH I'm not a fan of the usage of conlang in sprogspelet at all. Also we had a "non-written" agreement in the past (see round 128 & 151), about the usage of Conlang in Sprogspelet.

When Zev brought the Klingon round, I already submitted my disapproval to the Sprogspelet committee, but then, it has been decided that since the Conlang was well known and has got extensive resources, Klingon is accepted.
Hmmm....
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven I vote for invalidating this round, conlang in question is imho not notable enough compared with say Klingon which is world famous. :P
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Billy can you meet me underground?
Ed Blankenship
Ed Blankenship It kind of reminds me of Fante
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee I don't know if you're being ironic, as Fante is a dialect of Akan (spoken in Ghana), and the name Akan is arbitrarily close to the name of the conworld where this language is spoken.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger Wrik is going to post a dictionary and grammar once someone guesses what it is. It's attested enough that you can figure it out; you just need the resources, which we shall gladly oblige.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger This has gone on long enough. The conlang is Buruya Nzaysa, a member of the Edastean language family from the conworld Akana.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger Here are the dictionaries: http://akana.conlang.org/wiki/Buruya_Nzaysa/Lexicon http://akana.conlang.org/wiki/Buruya_Nzaysa/Thematic_dictionary
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger ...and a grammar: http://akana.conlang.org/wiki/Buruya_Nzaysa
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger (If you still judge this to be contrary to the rules or the spirit of Sprogspelet, we understand, but here is all the material required, nonetheless.)
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Here is my attempt...

YOU piga ɔ ONE TALE SAY/REPORT, BUT THEN THE OPPOSITE OF/FROM ANNOUNCED. I PROMISE THAT DIE/DIED FROM mɔkə BLAME!

This is an attempt at putting it into good English....
You piga ɔ report on one tale, but then I announce the opposite. I promise that he died from mɔkə blame.

-Confidence level - 0,1% :)
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger Blame is right in the last sentence.
Your first sentence is actually pretty good! The original gloss is closer than the good English you later put it in. I'll give you a hint: the subject doesn't change in the first sentence.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Sorry guys, I am superexhausted lately...
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Here is my incomplete second attempt... I've changed the first line somewhat, but I'm still working on the second.
[I'm sorry for the two-day delay!]

You are reporting a tale, but then announce the opposite.
I/You promise that ño blame the mɔkə.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger You're close with the first part, but it's still really awkward in English. Try phrasing it a bit differently.
Jake Kissinger
Jake Kissinger Any progress, guys?
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Sorry, Jake ! I've been away for the weekend. I've just spent some time trying to improve on it now. I'm still searching for a solution... :(
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Another hint-the word "blame" is being used in another, very similar way.
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline I shall see what I can do ce soir! :D
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Bonne chance avec cela!
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Third attempt with a little "free" translation:
Line 1. You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
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Line 2. I cannot find "mɔkə" at all. I have also tried splitting it into two elements, but then I got "seven one" which I imagine is not right. The most I can do is as follows :(
I mɔkə that as a blame/reproach.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee The first line is spot on!
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline It's a shame I can't find the second word..... :) Perhaps it'll come to me in a dream! It's almost midnight here, but I shall have a fresh look nella mattina :)
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee I guess it's fair at this point to give away what mɔkə is- it means something like contradiction, inconsistency, or flawed logic.
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Hm... I *take* that as false logic?
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee You got it.
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee It's being used a little idiomatically. You're much closer with your latter guess; it's close enough that I think it's fair to give you the win if you post a full translation.
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline I wouldn't have found "mɔkə" on my own, so thank you very much for your free word!
Ed Blankenship
Ed Blankenship Cna someone tag me when this round is over? Thanks! :)
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline And this is my final version:

You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
I take that as false logic!
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee ...And that's the round, Sarah Karoline. You've won! Nzɔnə loseda!
Thatcher Ó Donnabháin
Thatcher Ó Donnabháin Congratulations! Čestitam!!!
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline Хвала Wrik i Thatcher
Sarah Karoline
Sarah Karoline I am thinking....
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven We are free! Dobby is a free elf! And we'll be amending the rules soon...
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Congratulations, Sarah Karoline The Solver o' Konlang!

PS: Is it just me or "You've won!" looks like "none lose"? :P

By the way, this round unfortunately has shown two things:
* I was very busy last week (in fact I am currently rewriting my PHP framework at the moment)
* The Språkspelet public seems not ready for this particular type of conlangs for now. I am thereby proposing a "lesser-known conlang disarmament treaty"
Wrik Chatterjee
Wrik Chatterjee Okay, fair enough. Maybe next time I win, I'll host a round in a West African language. Nzɔnə loseda means something like "good work," btw.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Dino Wrik, seeing from the situation, I guess !Xóõ would be more Språkspelet-socially acceptable :)

(luckily Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström didn't see this...
...
or did he? :P )
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