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Wrik Chatterjee Okay, Round 231
So’ɔwa piga ɔ kɛ ivrɛ mve, dal ntɛga lu letsədə ah mpaskale.
Eseya xa ño u mɔkə kɔnze!
If you guys get the language, or at least the family it belongs to, I'll give you guys a grammar and a dictionary. A word of advice-don't search the text directly. And yes, Jake will co-moderate.
So’ɔwa piga ɔ kɛ ivrɛ mve, dal ntɛga lu letsədə ah mpaskale.
Eseya xa ño u mɔkə kɔnze!
If you guys get the language, or at least the family it belongs to, I'll give you guys a grammar and a dictionary. A word of advice-don't search the text directly. And yes, Jake will co-moderate.
Jake Kissinger It's not. That's a good guess though; it looks like that because of the IPA symbols being used in the orthography, no?
Zev Brȹk Yeah. I don't know West African languages too well. But looking at the vowel system, it reminds me a bit more of Wolof.
Jake Kissinger It's a good guess because it does, indeed, look like many African orthographies that were created after the existence of IPA & were influenced by it. It's orthography IS influenced by IPA.
Arief Wibowo Congratulations, Dino Wrik. A curious question, does ! represent a click? Or it's a clickless language?
Wrik Chatterjee Dino Wrik! I like it. The <!> is just an exclamation mark. It doesn't represent a sound; it's being used to mark strong feelings or emphasis.
Jake Kissinger Speak for yourself; that actually sounds like a swell idea… Not that I know enough to do a round in !Xõó or something like that. I don't even know how to pronounce that.
Wrik Chatterjee It might just be the most evil language ever. It has over a hundred clicks as clusters, six ejectives, and tonality.
Wrik Chatterjee No and no. This language is not, to my knowledge, spoken in a country once colonized by France (unless somebody there specifically tried learning it). And while it is a good guess, mpaskale has nothing to do with Easter. In fact, that word is a verb in this sentence. If you guys still can't get this, we'll drop some bigger clues.
Zev Brȹk I searched a word against your wishes and found out the language, but this is inherently unguessable. I think that using Klingon was justified since it so well known and documented, but this is just pure trolling.
Wrik Chatterjee It's perfectly guessable once you figure that out. We could, of course, give away the conworld where it is spoken. Given that it has both a grammar and a dictionary, it should still be playable. You guys have had even less documented languages than this, like Nancowry, which only has two known grammars, both of which are from the 1800s.
Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Well, TBH I'm not a fan of the usage of conlang in sprogspelet at all. Also we had a "non-written" agreement in the past (see round 128 & 151), about the usage of Conlang in Sprogspelet.
When Zev brought the Klingon round, I already submitted my disapproval to the Sprogspelet committee, but then, it has been decided that since the Conlang was well known and has got extensive resources, Klingon is accepted.
Hmmm....
When Zev brought the Klingon round, I already submitted my disapproval to the Sprogspelet committee, but then, it has been decided that since the Conlang was well known and has got extensive resources, Klingon is accepted.
Hmmm....
Billy James Brightraven I vote for invalidating this round, conlang in question is imho not notable enough compared with say Klingon which is world famous.
Wrik Chatterjee I don't know if you're being ironic, as Fante is a dialect of Akan (spoken in Ghana), and the name Akan is arbitrarily close to the name of the conworld where this language is spoken.
Jake Kissinger Wrik is going to post a dictionary and grammar once someone guesses what it is. It's attested enough that you can figure it out; you just need the resources, which we shall gladly oblige.
Jake Kissinger This has gone on long enough. The conlang is Buruya Nzaysa, a member of the Edastean language family from the conworld Akana.
Jake Kissinger (If you still judge this to be contrary to the rules or the spirit of Sprogspelet, we understand, but here is all the material required, nonetheless.)
Sarah Karoline Here is my attempt...
YOU piga ɔ ONE TALE SAY/REPORT, BUT THEN THE OPPOSITE OF/FROM ANNOUNCED. I PROMISE THAT DIE/DIED FROM mɔkə BLAME!
This is an attempt at putting it into good English....
You piga ɔ report on one tale, but then I announce the opposite. I promise that he died from mɔkə blame.
-Confidence level - 0,1%
YOU piga ɔ ONE TALE SAY/REPORT, BUT THEN THE OPPOSITE OF/FROM ANNOUNCED. I PROMISE THAT DIE/DIED FROM mɔkə BLAME!
This is an attempt at putting it into good English....
You piga ɔ report on one tale, but then I announce the opposite. I promise that he died from mɔkə blame.
-Confidence level - 0,1%
Jake Kissinger Blame is right in the last sentence.
Your first sentence is actually pretty good! The original gloss is closer than the good English you later put it in. I'll give you a hint: the subject doesn't change in the first sentence.
Your first sentence is actually pretty good! The original gloss is closer than the good English you later put it in. I'll give you a hint: the subject doesn't change in the first sentence.
Sarah Karoline Here is my incomplete second attempt... I've changed the first line somewhat, but I'm still working on the second.
[I'm sorry for the two-day delay!]
You are reporting a tale, but then announce the opposite.
I/You promise that ño blame the mɔkə.
[I'm sorry for the two-day delay!]
You are reporting a tale, but then announce the opposite.
I/You promise that ño blame the mɔkə.
Jake Kissinger You're close with the first part, but it's still really awkward in English. Try phrasing it a bit differently.
Sarah Karoline Sorry, Jake ! I've been away for the weekend. I've just spent some time trying to improve on it now. I'm still searching for a solution...
Sarah Karoline Third attempt with a little "free" translation:
Line 1. You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
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Line 2. I cannot find "mɔkə" at all. I have also tried splitting it into two elements, but then I got "seven one" which I imagine is not right. The most I can do is as follows
I mɔkə that as a blame/reproach.
Line 1. You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
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Line 2. I cannot find "mɔkə" at all. I have also tried splitting it into two elements, but then I got "seven one" which I imagine is not right. The most I can do is as follows
I mɔkə that as a blame/reproach.
Sarah Karoline It's a shame I can't find the second word..... Perhaps it'll come to me in a dream! It's almost midnight here, but I shall have a fresh look nella mattina
Wrik Chatterjee I guess it's fair at this point to give away what mɔkə is- it means something like contradiction, inconsistency, or flawed logic.
Wrik Chatterjee It's being used a little idiomatically. You're much closer with your latter guess; it's close enough that I think it's fair to give you the win if you post a full translation.
Sarah Karoline And this is my final version:
You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
I take that as false logic!
You tell one tale, but then you say the opposite.
I take that as false logic!
Arief Wibowo Congratulations, Sarah Karoline The Solver o' Konlang!
PS: Is it just me or "You've won!" looks like "none lose"?
By the way, this round unfortunately has shown two things:
* I was very busy last week (in fact I am currently rewriting my PHP framework at the moment)
* The Språkspelet public seems not ready for this particular type of conlangs for now. I am thereby proposing a "lesser-known conlang disarmament treaty"
PS: Is it just me or "You've won!" looks like "none lose"?
By the way, this round unfortunately has shown two things:
* I was very busy last week (in fact I am currently rewriting my PHP framework at the moment)
* The Språkspelet public seems not ready for this particular type of conlangs for now. I am thereby proposing a "lesser-known conlang disarmament treaty"
Wrik Chatterjee Okay, fair enough. Maybe next time I win, I'll host a round in a West African language. Nzɔnə loseda means something like "good work," btw.
Arief Wibowo Dino Wrik, seeing from the situation, I guess !Xóõ would be more Språkspelet-socially acceptable
(luckily Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström didn't see this...
...
or did he? )
(luckily Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström didn't see this...
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or did he? )
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