Round 106

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Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven Ok, go

“Teräs hakkaa viha kasvaa
Koneistolle vallan antaa
Veri kiehuu ja kasvot saa
(...)
Kuka synnytti pahan?
Kuka keksi vallan ja rahan?
Kuka maailmaan auttaa?”

I told you Finno-Ugric was coming…
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Kuka = who
hakkaa = beat smth up? 3rd person
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith saa = 3rd person receive/get
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Why do my rounds always turn out so damn difficult?!
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith actually I bet a lot of -aa's there are 3rd person singular markers
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven And my Finno-Ugric ones so short :( [next time, I'm going with Sami languages…]
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström I think I retreat from this thread! ^^
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith No Victor! We need you!
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith At least, we need you like Mario needs Bowser
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström You know how to charm a guy.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Hmm... Wait a minute, about the previous round, Дайте Нефть Из Баку said "Let's translate "WE ARE FREE!" in every language except Avestan!", and Christian James Meredith's round is really 'we are free'... Is that a coincidence?

Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström, don't worry, I once had to cancel my Sanskrit round (http://sprogspelet.arwi.im/history/round/?id=24#1) because there wasn't anybody attempting it :P

Speaking of which, Christian, your request for enhancement has been implemented! We have round-based history. :D

And apparently, this is round 106, but if possible, don't reference the number in your rounds -- I am still vetting the data (2 days ago, this would have been round 103, but I found few untagged rounds in the middle)
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo maailmaan = mailman? :D :D

Plus Christian James Meredith's guesses:
[Teräs] (beat?) [viha] [kasvaa]
[Koneistolle] [vallan] [antaa]
[Veri] [kiehuu] [ja] [kasvot] get
(...)
Who [synnytti] [pahan]?
Who [keksi] [vallan] [ja] [rahan]?
Who mailman [auttaa]?
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo ja=yes?
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Arief, no it wasn't a coincidence, it was the joke :P
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith And yay! Goodonya Arief!
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith And no, ja = and
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo A ha, now that makes sense.
I am tempted to translate veri → beri (Indonesian) → give (because the end of that line is "get") :P
Brandon James Heinrich
Brandon James Heinrich Can we translate things to
Conlangs at all?
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Brandon James Heinrich, we translate things to English. There wasn't any rule against hosting conlang challenges ("from"), but less documentation* might make it either super easy (because the dictionary contains all words needed) or super difficult (because no resource to help us at all).

Having that said, I once hosted a round of Alteran (one of Stargate languages), but that's only because it's very similar to Latin :)

* in comparison with natural languages
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Give it a try, Brandon! And welcome to our game :)
Alfia Wallace
Alfia Wallace Hpw
Brandon James Heinrich
Brandon James Heinrich When dies the round end?
Brandon James Heinrich
Brandon James Heinrich *does
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo When somebody translates Billy's challenge to English.
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith You can have a crack if you wish Brandon, it's just Finnish so get a dictionary and a good grammar you can decipher it quickly (I would.. but I won last time and I'm too busy playing LoL ;-) )
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven No one?
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith If no one gets to it by tonight (Central AU time, it's 8.40am atm) I'll plough through it with WILLPOWER.
/setting myself up for crushing defeat
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström I'm not gonna help.
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith OK I lied. I'm having a stab at things now.

“Teräs hakkaa viha kasvaa
Koneistolle vallan antaa
Veri kiehuu ja kasvot saa
(...)
Kuka synnytti pahan?
Kuka keksi vallan ja rahan?
Kuka maailmaan auttaa?”

Ruff draft Wun:

Steal beats, rage grows
To machinery, (he) gives power
Blood boils and gets face
(...)
Who (is born? passive?? I dunno how to conjugate passives) bad?
Who (invents? should this be keksii or does "kuka" command a different ending?) power and money?
Who in the world helps?
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Whoops, *steel.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Perhaps "Who is the origin of bad?"
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Yes, that seems better, in fact, I think it might be "Who births evil", since I accidentally forgot it's in the genitive/accusative.
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo Oh, maailmaan isn't mailman :D :D
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Nah, it's world :P (Maa + ilma, look them up on wiktionary, it has a cool etymology) But that said... I'm *not* entirely sure my translation of that line is right - maailmaan is in the illative...

Perhaps the last line should be "Who brings help to the world" (implying help goes *into* the world, e.g. "who helps into the world").
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo I have a feeling that this is a metal song, considering the amount of 'aaa' at the end of stuffs
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Also, time for a half arsed gloss, to spread the glory of Finnish (behold the power of a working (e.g. "I can't actually speak this language") knowledge!):

steel beat/strike/hit.3S anger/rage/fury grow.3S
machine.COLL*.ALL power.GEN/ACC give.3S (*collective)
blood boil.3S and face.PL* gets (*this only has a plural, and the accusative/nominative are identical)
who birth*.PAST.3S bad.GEN/ACC (*this is actually some sort of causative verb based on synty it seems, which in Finnish appears to use the partitive as a base, see synnyttää)
who invent.PAST.3S* power.GEN/ACC and money.GEN/ACC (*keksi turns out to be a past form due to s and t merging, while keksii is the present equivalent)
who earth.air.ILL help.3S
Arief Wibowo
Arief Wibowo I am still learning all those stuffs :|
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Thus a fixed up version:
"Steel beets, rage grows
To machinery, all power is given
Blood boils, and gets a face (e.g. the people become angry, and this is recognised publically)
Who birthed evil?
Who invented power and money?
Who will bring aid to the world?"

Billy James Brightraven, this is awesome, but I bet it's from some dark metal song I'd probably never listen to hahahaha
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven Christian, you win! Except it's beats, not beets.

No Swedes here ;)

The song is pretty funky, but unfortunately very shout-y :\
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Ah, that explains why I spelt Steel as Steal :D
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith I'll be back soon... expect a tad of a wait though!
Billy James Brightraven
Billy James Brightraven Arief, that's just Finnish for you! :P
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Finnish is like lego... It's grammar is simply silly. That's probably why it's good for making fancy languages.

(inside joke, inside joke, don't read it the way it looks :P )
Kevin Long
Kevin Long Finnish is like Lego? So it hurts like hell when you step on it accidentally?
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith I'm sensing another inside joke in the making here... hehehe...
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith Anyway, preparing the next round... This one's gonna be fun :3
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith You may want to pay attention to any links I've recently posted on this group too ;-)
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Seriously!? Ainu!?
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Ainiously!?
Kevin Long
Kevin Long Why don't we just go with AINU language altogether. Pardon the pun, it's just such a REWORDING experience...I need to be PUN-ished...
Christian James Meredith
Christian James Meredith It's ainubody's guess Kev.
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