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Maria Weidner OK! be prepared... Let's first see if some of you recognises the language: Wawakunaykipas waqanayankuchu?
Billy James Brightraven For some reason I want to say Popol Vuh. But this is probably very wrong. xD
Billy James Brightraven Let's narrow it down to family then… we know it's not K'iche'… so that just leaves like 300 families.
Billy James Brightraven http://facultad.pucp.edu.pe/ciencias-sociales/curso/quechua/gramatica.html
Practice your Spanish as a bonus
Practice your Spanish as a bonus
Christian James Meredith Wawakunaykipis waqanayankuchu?
Ok, so I'm seeing these morphemes so far:
(Wawa)-kuna-yki-pi-(s?) waqa-naya-nku-chu
I think yki = 2nd person singular (or your), pi if it's standalone is locative, nku = 3rd person plural (or their) chu = question marker.
Ok, so I'm seeing these morphemes so far:
(Wawa)-kuna-yki-pi-(s?) waqa-naya-nku-chu
I think yki = 2nd person singular (or your), pi if it's standalone is locative, nku = 3rd person plural (or their) chu = question marker.
Christian James Meredith So guys, we might not ever understand what it means, but we can die knowing that it was indeed grammatical xD
Arief Wibowo According to Wikipedia, wawa=infant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua_languages#Current_status
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua_languages#Current_status
Christian James Meredith Requiescat in pace, Billy. *jumps off tall building into tiny stack of hay*
Christian James Meredith Oh, so -pis is still locative? :O
DAMMIT WIKIPEDIA. YOU FAIL ME. NOW I'M DEFINITELY NOT DONATING.
DAMMIT WIKIPEDIA. YOU FAIL ME. NOW I'M DEFINITELY NOT DONATING.
Billy James Brightraven Helpful Glossing Bot:
Current progress for Weidner's round
Wawa-kuna-yki-pis waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-kuna-2SG/2SG.POSS-yki-pis waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
Good luuck!
Current progress for Weidner's round
Wawa-kuna-yki-pis waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-kuna-2SG/2SG.POSS-yki-pis waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
Good luuck!
Arief Wibowo -s could be evidentiality:
[...]=si expresses hearsay knowledge (Tayta Wayllaqawaqa chufirsi, "Mr. Huayllacahua is a driver, or so I've heard")[...]These become =m, =s, =ch after a vowel,[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua_languages#Evidentiality
[...]=si expresses hearsay knowledge (Tayta Wayllaqawaqa chufirsi, "Mr. Huayllacahua is a driver, or so I've heard")[...]These become =m, =s, =ch after a vowel,[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua_languages#Evidentiality
Billy James Brightraven Helpful Glossing Bot:
++?????++ Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start.
Current progress for Weidner's round
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-kuna-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
Good luuck!
++ Amending to Include Wibowo's Discovery ++
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-PL-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-q
++?????++ Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start.
Current progress for Weidner's round
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-kuna-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
Good luuck!
++ Amending to Include Wibowo's Discovery ++
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-PL-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-q
Christian James Meredith Oh yep, forgot the plural, good spotting Arief!
Дайте I has already beaten you to it xD
Дайте I has already beaten you to it xD
Christian James Meredith (Building on the bot)
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-PLUR-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas* waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
*pas here in one dialect being "at least" or something like that apparently, but in this dialect, it's not that.
Wawa-kuna-yki-pas waqa-naya-nku-chu
Infant-PLUR-2SG/2SG.POSS-pas* waqa-naya-3PL/3PL.POSS-Q
*pas here in one dialect being "at least" or something like that apparently, but in this dialect, it's not that.
Arief Wibowo Is this the your -pas?
-pas – the inclusive (“also”, “likewise”)
http://quechua.binaryelysium.com/g_suffix.html
-pas – the inclusive (“also”, “likewise”)
http://quechua.binaryelysium.com/g_suffix.html
Arief Wibowo Grammar-illiterate glossing bot:
The first part is Infants-you-also
Possibly: With your infants [...]
The first part is Infants-you-also
Possibly: With your infants [...]
Arief Wibowo Btw, Maria Weidner, according to the site where I found -pas, turns out -pis is a synonym, so you didn't make mistake 
Christian James Meredith Maria Weidner, I know if you're not friends with them you sorta have to give it a bit of time, and use @ etc coz it's just damn finicky
Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Try with an @. I would never have solved that if it weren't for "-pas" = "likewise, as well". 
I read "and" somewhere, and I simply couldn't make it fit together...
I would never have solved that if it weren't for "-pas" = "likewise, as well". I read "and" somewhere, and I simply couldn't make it fit together...Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström I have never been that stressed out on a round. Everyone else was catching up so quickly!
I actually found "waqanaya" quite early, and "wawakuna". Then I had problems with "-pas/pis" as well as "nku-chu" (The order of the last one threw me off). And then I had to piece it together.
Everyone else was catching up so quickly! I actually found "waqanaya" quite early, and "wawakuna". Then I had problems with "-pas/pis" as well as "nku-chu" (The order of the last one threw me off). And then I had to piece it together.
Christian James Meredith BTW, is the difference between kuna-yki and yki-kuna something like "your group of children" vs "the group of your children", using some pretty bad English wording?
Arief Wibowo Ever wanted to know which rounds are among the hardest?
Get your answer now at http://sprogspelet.arwi.im/history/rounds/?sort=duration&desc=1
Get your answer now at http://sprogspelet.arwi.im/history/rounds/?sort=duration&desc=1
Christian James Meredith Ironic how out of the top 6, 2 are from Italy, one is from Sweden, and the remaining three are actually rather obscure for English speakers.
Arief Wibowo Sorry for misleading table header, the Won # actually shows "how many posts it takes to get the winner", so it doesn't make sense for draw ones. I am going to add total posts of the round tomorrow (my curfew is activated now)
Arief Wibowo Christian, I am not sure which top 6 you are referring to (did you sort it by something else?).
If not mistaken, there isn't a Swedish round in top 6, it was (not in order ) Ainu, Bataknese, Indonesian, Berber, Sumerian, all of which are rather obscure for English speakers
If not mistaken, there isn't a Swedish round in top 6, it was (not in order
) Ainu, Bataknese, Indonesian, Berber, Sumerian, all of which are rather obscure for English speakers Christian James Meredith Victor, I'm going by top 6 longest rounds, of which only one "language" is from Sweden (language? dialect? drunken man?)
Christian James Meredith I'm getting a feeling that phrases that *should* be easy aren't because there's all these shades of meaning that we overlook, while languages that *should* be hard aren't quite as much because we're thinking more creatively or something
Christian James Meredith Notice how many times Victor appears, regardless of how you sort the thing by post count or real time
Arief Wibowo Here is the screenshot of the top 6 by duration
(pardon the yellow-black stripes, that's from my curfew-enforcer app)
Duration is shown as hours:minutes:seconds
There is a trick, mouseover on the started by or won by column, and you should see the starting/winning post.
Top 6 by duration: Ainu, Avestan, Berber, Malay (Malaysian/Indonesian), Bataknese, and Maltese.
Top 6 by won # (number of posts to the winner): Friulian, Avestan, Ainu, Swedish, Mandean
And yes, Victor victors everywhere
Now I should get back to bed
(pardon the yellow-black stripes, that's from my curfew-enforcer app)
Duration is shown as hours:minutes:seconds
There is a trick, mouseover on the started by or won by column, and you should see the starting/winning post.
Top 6 by duration: Ainu, Avestan, Berber, Malay (Malaysian/Indonesian), Bataknese, and Maltese.
Top 6 by won # (number of posts to the winner): Friulian, Avestan, Ainu, Swedish, Mandean
And yes, Victor victors everywhere
Now I should get back to bed
Christian James Meredith But does duration = difficulty moreso than post count?
We need a new unit of difficulty measurement xD
We need a new unit of difficulty measurement xD
Arief Wibowo I think duration has more correlation to difficulty (than post count).
More posts could be because of "overexcitement" (posting word by word of a sentence because of the epinephrine rush)
More posts could be because of "overexcitement" (posting word by word of a sentence because of the epinephrine rush)
Arief Wibowo But then longer duration could be because of lack of interest (less people teamworking, so it takes more time)
Arief Wibowo Not yet, I will do that, a bit later though
Once we have the languages tagged, we can start publishing statistics like those people who showed the hardest languages to learn -- we can publish the hardest languages to beat
Once we have the languages tagged, we can start publishing statistics like those people who showed the hardest languages to learn -- we can publish the hardest languages to beat
Arief Wibowo Christian, about languages and overlooking, I had a thought that the difficulty depends on available resources to crunch in languages that the player know.
For example, Ainu: about 5 websites in English, Latin: looooots
For example, Ainu: about 5 websites in English, Latin: looooots
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