Round 20 | Språkspelet

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Arief Wibowo Okay, my turn.... Gajah perang karo gajah, kancil mati ing tengahe

Arief Wibowo I would like to bring my comrade Christian James Meredith into the game

Arief Wibowo Hint: this is a proverb

Malin Elisabeth Nilsson I surrender this is way too hard for me!

Arief Wibowo Gajah and kancil are animals

Malin Elisabeth Nilsson Parrot?

Christian James Meredith I think I've heard of the kancil, gimme a sec

Christian James Meredith I don't even know the game rules yet LOL

Arief Wibowo Both are land animals, both has four legs, gajah is huuuuge but currently still alive, kancil is small

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith: just translate it as best as you can, with your current knowledge

Arief Wibowo And the group will build upon each other's guesses (at least thats how we answered few last questions)

Malin Elisabeth Nilsson Elepant?

Arief Wibowo Yes

Christian James Meredith I'm going for a wild guess with my rusty knowledge and assuming something crazy like "when elephants have a war, all the kancils get squashed and die"

Arief Wibowo Almost correct

Christian James Meredith Although kancils are meant to be clever little fellas so now I feel like they perhaps just wait for all the elephants to die instead

Arief Wibowo But because one word was not translated, the meaning is lost

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith: yes, somehow they are not as cunning as advertised in this proverb

Christian James Meredith Haha. Well I don't know "ing" or "karo" enough to guess well enough and "tengahe" looks like "middle" but then I don't recognise the "e". I must be having a slow day

Arief Wibowo This is not Indonesian

Christian James Meredith Unless "ing" is related to "ingin", in which case maybe it's like "when elephants fight against elephants, all the kancil who want to be in the middle die"

Arief Wibowo Almost correct, a bit more a bit more, you can make it

Arief Wibowo It's better (you translated the one word I mentioned before), but now it becomes wrong

Christian James Meredith Doh! haha. All the kancil *in* the middle?

Christian James Meredith instead of "want"?

Arief Wibowo Yeah!!!

Christian James Meredith Whoohoo! Now I take it I need to suggest one? I'll have to find a good Australian one

Arief Wibowo While you do that, let me write up a literal translation

Christian James Meredith Is that Javanese btw Arief?

Arief Wibowo gajah=elephant
perang=war
karo=with
gajah,
kancil=(a kind of donkey)
mati=diie
ing=in (like Indonesian "di")
tengahe=the middle (Indonesian: tengahnya.. -e in Javanese generally becomes -nya in Indonesian)

Arief Wibowo Meaning, when big boys (like governments) fight with each other, the people will suffer the consequences

Arief Wibowo Christian James Meredith: correct

-- in fact, more or less the only javanese proverb I know.. I don't speak javanese that well

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