Dago Lesmes Suagua Let's go with this, a language from my continent. It's a sample sentence from a book I bought days ago. It was a treasure I got for only one euro xd. There's a loanwoard that might tell you a bit more about the "location" of this language....
And it's short
---> Ix xix c'oje' pa escuela najtir. Maria Weidner najtir = go? Billy James Brightraven I think I've got which language it is. Is it from somewhere near or in Guatemala? Dago Lesmes Suagua Vincensiu Denis, exactly :p. Now the rest of the phrase!
Maria Weidner, nope, you're a bit far away from th area this language is actually spoken. Najtir =/= go. Dago Lesmes Suagua Billy..... Yes it is! Billy James Brightraven Close, Kaqchikel I think Billy James Brightraven ix = you-abs? i.e. you object, you subject Dago Lesmes Suagua Ix = A type of you subject. But you haven't said whether its familiar or formal, singular or plural :p.
Maria Weidner, It is Quiché! Billy James Brightraven Damn it, I was sure it was Kaqchikel Mayan :p Billy James Brightraven I meant plural absolutive (I write thou else)
ix = 2PL.ABS (or Set B as it's known) Maria Weidner So sorry, I have to work no for an hour! Don't solve it! :p I'll be back soon! Дайте Нефть Из Баку Oh boy, 300 posts already? What's the current sentence? Dago Lesmes Suagua Дайте Нефть Из Баку... Ix xix c'oje' pa escuela najtir. Dago Lesmes Suagua Billy James Brightraven, You're right that's it. Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Damnit, it'll be over before I'm home from practice. :p Billy James Brightraven najtir = ancient/anciently
Ix xix c'oje' pa escuela najtir.
You xix c'oje' pa school ancient.
2pl.abs xix c'oje' pa school ancient.ADJ Dago Lesmes Suagua Billy James Brightraven, you're right about something. Najtir DOES refer to something in the past, and 'anciently' is a good way to translate it. But be careful... It may not be 'ancient' in the way you are thinking! Maria Weidner In the dictionary are only words with "ch'" but not with "c'".. :/ Billy James Brightraven c' = q' or k' I think :p Maria Weidner pa = to? to the school? Dago Lesmes Suagua Not "to", but it does mean a concept related to "location". Billy James Brightraven by? i.e by the old school? Dago Lesmes Suagua You're getting close but you're not there yet.
Btw,
I never said "old school" was right :p Maria Weidner to, by, in.. at school? Maria Weidner I can't find the words nowhere.. Dago Lesmes Suagua 1. At school. Correct Maria Weidner.
2. Try to make it an adverb, Billy! Billy James Brightraven You xix c'oje' at the former school? Maria Weidner -ix marcardor segunda persona plural... that's logical Maria Weidner is xix c'oje' ONE verb? Dago Lesmes Suagua Technically it is. Xix is a particle used when conjugating to indicate a specific tense; c'o is the main verb root, and je' is a suffix used also for conjugation.
It's a compound verb conjugation, to call it that way. In fact, it's translation into English results in two words. Dago Lesmes Suagua I meant adverb, little typo up there Billy! Maria Weidner xix could be you (pl) the object? but if it is ix xix, -ix must be subject, so it is a verb in 2. p. pl. Maria Weidner el primer x marca el pasado..oops, sorry, switched into spanish.. Maria Weidner xix (you plural did something -> c'oje') Maria Weidner i am now sure it is past, because of the first x and 2.p.pl. because of ix Dago Lesmes Suagua Yeap Maria. We would now have.....
"You (pl. fam.) did/have/had [c'oje'] at/in school [najtir]". Maria Weidner pa wasn't it "at"? Billy James Brightraven You have c'oje' at school formerly.
Just going out on a limb saying it's
You've been at school before.
? Maria Weidner You (pl. fam.) did/have/had [c'oje'] at school [najtir] Dago Lesmes Suagua Billy James Brightraven... It's not really "before". But the rest of the sentence is 100% good. Think... It has to do with 'ancient' and it is a concept related to 'before'. But it isn't 'before'. Billy James Brightraven Context, you great gift to man. xD Dago Lesmes Suagua Well, it's a short sentence and there aren't many words. I need the exact translation, otherwise I'm not giving this one away Maria Weidner no es "anteriormente"? Dago Lesmes Suagua In English that would be 'previously', so no. Maria Weidner I have no idea...adverb, related to before..?? I am stuck. Maria Weidner It is a normal english word that makes sense in that sentence? Maria Weidner and it was also not "formerly" was it? Dago Lesmes Suagua Nope, not "formerly". It's three words, an adverb as a whole Maria Weidner in ancient times? Maria Weidner in former times? Maria Weidner long time ago? Maria Weidner where are all the others? Dago Lesmes Suagua Maria Weidner, in ancient times! You got it
Or "in the past" too. "Past" is called "ancient times". Maria Weidner YEAH! You've been at school in ancient times Maria Weidner the lonely winner Maria Weidner So why didn't you join in? Or do you speak qiché as well?? Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Im busy at work...
Maria Weidner seems like you have been online for 24 hours lol Maria Weidner No, I' ve worked, I went out, I havebeen shopping, I cooked.. Maria Weidner But I work at home, so... Sarah Karoline Isn't working at home fantabulous! hihi Maria Weidner I think I'll wait till tomorrow, nobody seems to be in the mood for a new round. And Victor only watches secretly... :p Sarah Karoline I'll return in the morning.... I hope I'm of some use. I wasn't able to be of any in today's rounds Marius Vincenzii Dennischter Lucky you! I wish I could work from home... Sarah Karoline The disadvantage of working at home is that every room is an office, and when you're happily posting about all and nothing on Omniglot, you think to yourself, "well, I could be working".
Billy James Brightraven We're always in the mood! It's just that sometimes we sleep Sarah Karoline "sleep"..What is this word that you speak? It appears you are speaking in tongues again and thus leaving us mere mortals confounded! Marius Vincenzii Dennischter haha... sleep is the condition when you lost/waste significant amount of your time. when you accomplished this sleep thing, usually you might feel physically better... Marius Vincenzii Dennischter and that is what Im going to do in the next few hours Sarah Karoline Oh, thank you for this explanation! I think I'll try it... once I've done this piece of work...:) Billy James Brightraven Next challenge! I need something to mull over on my flight :p Maria Weidner I'll go to bed soon, so there'll be no one helping and guiding you through... Billy James Brightraven It's okay, we've dun runs with the lead away for some time :p but if you'd rather not, no pressure :p
(I see you Arief!) Arief Wibowo Yes, I am here now
First question of my day: Did Maria Weidner win? Arief Wibowo My Japanese is very very rusty. Was that hello or yes, Billy-san? Arief Wibowo Sarah Karoline, Maria Weidner, for me, the disadvantage of working at home is..... When there's no progress with work, I am here... When there's no progress here, I continue building our website Arief Wibowo Domo, Billy-san Arief Wibowo Seems like there's no challenge to accompany Billy James Brightraven's flight Billy James Brightraven I guess I'll have time to peruse my Croatian for Nobs book then :p Arief Wibowo Oh Hrvatski, one of the language that has way too many consonant clusters Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström Or not enough!
Okay, enough. Arief Wibowo ↑ Vctrwhlstrndskrstrm Sarah Karoline Arief Wibowo: Another advantage of working at home is that we have time to peruse "Complexities of Croatian AND Slovak for Those Wworking at Home" when there is no Språkspel/Sprogspel/Málspil to play! hihi
All: I think there are more consonant clusters in Polish or Czech than in Croatian. I think there are too many vowels in the Balkan languages. They could easily lose some! Maria Weidner ok, I am back. Wait a moment! Arief Wibowo Sarah Karoline, or reading "Making Vegetable Salad and Bread 'n Butter for Dummies"
Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of knowing how to differentiate Eastern European languages... I failed many Great Language Game (http://greatlanguagegame.com/) rounds because of this too Arief Wibowo Vanakkam, Maria Weidner, eppadi irukeenga? Arief Wibowo (↑ no, that's not this round's challenge ) Sarah Karoline THat's next on my list: Translating "Making Vegetable Salad with Bread 'n Butter" into Croatian.
I played that game the other day, and got mostly Slavic and Asian languages. I need to work more on Asian languages! haha
The South-Slavic languages are more recognisable by having more vowels, or rather less or shorter consonant clusters than West Slavic. I have a list comparing the various Slavic languages somewhere... Maria Weidner Should I post it here? Arief Maria Weidner New post or continue here? Sarah Karoline Perhaps Arief is making a sandwich! Sarah Karoline p.s. Maria, How do you get just a first name to highlight? My tagging is rather unsuccessful. Maria Weidner Erase the surnames! Sarah Karoline I tried that, but the first and surname are in a block, so they all disappear. I'll try again, Maria
It worked! Maria Weidner Strange... I have various blocks..:/ Maria Weidner YEAH, YOU GOT IT! Maria Weidner Ok, I'll continue here, seems easier. SO Victor Wåhlstrand Skärström, Vincensiu Denis, Sarah Karoline,, Dago Lesmes, Billy James Brightraven, Christian James Meredith, Arief wibowo (why it doesn't tag?) GO!